Wednesday, August 11, 2010

New Package, Same Goods

As hinted at recently, the main author of this blog left the JDA today, and I am taking the blog with me. So, I have contrived something else to fit the initials JDACMB and renamed it. Without the JDA link, we can accept copy from anybody, if it is suitable. Breaking down the email to avoid spambots, I have an account at the ".co.uk" domain of "yahoo" in the name of "cdrotherham", that you can send submissions to.
The comment policy will continue to be that, you may disagree with us, but you may not be grossly offensive.
We hope that you will continue to read.

David Rotherham

77 comments:

  1. Hoping Trevor still keeps contributing, otherwise hope he starts his own.

    Only one worth following, with any guts.

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  2. So does that mean you and Trevor have left the JDA?

    As you were the main contributors to this blog I think it's good idea that you've kept hold of it.

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  3. If Trevor and Shona are staying here then that's were i'm staying.

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  4. Trevor is not the only one worth following. All the JDA Deputies must be amongst the hardest working States members we have. But I would give a special mention to Shona Pitman. This girl works her butt off for her constituents and I have nothing but respect for her.

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  5. Could we hear a little more from Shona? She works like hell for her constituents and never gets recognized for it. Trevor is a legend.

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  6. Shona is a legendess

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  7. Perhaps Deputy Shona Pitman doesn't have either the time or inclination to get involved in blogging. Its great that some of our politicians do blog but if others like Shona are too busy because they are doing the grassroots stuff of helping their constituents then that is fine by me. I agree with Anonymous though Shona does have a very good name for her constituent work. It is also what we pay them for after all - not the blogging however much some of us enjoy it.

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  8. Splits in the JDA?

    If it just Geoff and Ted in an ever reducing rump, then it will simply implode. No matter.

    The field is once again open for a recomposition of the Left, this time hopefully on the Left and not the Centre Right.

    Perhaps the time has come to form an organisation based explicitly on socio economic interests and the trade unions.

    Those who remained loyal to the JDA, despite all the antics, did so because they recognised the need for an organised oppostion. Unfortunately, the loyalty to this organisation abused their belief and they need to think again about organisational options, but above all about ideology. Where do they stand politicaly? What vision do they have of society and economy?.

    The Crisis is manifest throughout society and likewise in the politics of the Jersey Oppostion.

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  9. people shouldn't forget Debbie de Sousa either. she has really made a big difference in getting Portuguese people some help.

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  10. Blimey

    I have total respect for Trevor and Shona

    They have my support thats for sure and wish them all the best in whatever move they are making.

    Same goes for Debbie

    What I think is really sad is that this has even happened in the first place. The JDA was going along nicely until Uncle Ted turned up fed Geoff's ego and then it all exploded.

    Geoff Southern is needed in the states. He is researched and hard working, can't stand him thou but appreciate the work he puts in.

    Well good luck all

    We all need it

    rs

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  11. I hope you still get postings from Trevor, and have not completely severed support for all JDA members as individuals, rather than party members. I rather like Trevor - "testicular fortitude" was a wonderfully clever way of getting past the censor!

    I've taken you off my list of Jersey blogs and added you back again, so you now have the new name!

    I agreed with your posting that Geoff standing did considerable damage to the JDA, it would have been much better to field an unelected JDA candidate.

    I'd be interested to know one thing, however, if it's not breaking any confidences, and that's how Geoff's decision to stand was made - was it on the basis of an "activist" vote, an "all member" vote, or more or less a unilateral decision? And was there any discussion and debate on the merits beforehand?

    Anyhow, I think there will be very few Deputies trying as Senator in the next election - the either/or nature of the election means that only exceptionally popular Deputies would try, and risk good local district support against a chancy Island vote.

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  12. Not yet another party of personalities please.
    Let the public know the policies first - then choose those who might be "leaders."

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  13. Tony:
    Geoff's standing in the by-election was "more or less unilateral", but he did persuade all of the Council, except the North Coast dwellers, to endorse him.

    Anonymous #6:
    Not another party at all: Been there, done that, had enough already.

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  14. After whats been exposed about Stuart Syvret's behaviour lately Geoff Southern had every right to stand.

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  15. Left the JDA. Seen the light 'eh!

    Further proof that Vibert & Southern and are serial losers.

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  16. Reading between the lines lately this comes as little or no surprise to me.

    The Pitmans and whoever stays alongside them will be where my loyalties lie. Trevor has proved himself as worthy of his place in the States, and as many people have pointed out his wife does a lot of hard work 'on the ground' as it were.

    Good luck

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  17. I think there are 5 people on here who only support Pitman for the Graham Power questions. That is not enough votes to hold onto a seat believe it or not!

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  18. This Graham Power rubbish has to be put to sleep now. Let VFC, Gee Gee & Rico yap on about it but get this blog back to more important Island matters now.

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  19. I think you are very wrong Anonymous. I have known Trevor for longer than the Power affair has been going on, and always had respect for him.

    Having watched and listened to him in the States Chamber, he deserves his seat and works hard. In other words, he does what we should expect a politician to do.

    It is very shallow to say that people only support someone because of 'Graham Power' questions, especially as GP was not an issue when Trevor was elected!

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  20. Try and leave a post on the new JDA blog site. I'm not brave enough, yet, to leave my name. I just wanted to let Deputy Southern know, he no longer has my support.

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  21. GeeGee,

    Some people are like a stuck record, they haven't got anything to add to any debate except have a go at Stuart, VFC, Rico etc
    I would have thought that the issues surrounding Graham Powers suspension are of concern to the majority of the Island and that's why Trevor amongst others asked questions in the States, that's what they are elected to do.

    David the reason I asked about Trevor leaving is that on the new JDA blog is states that when you and he left you took the blog with you?

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  22. I don't think Trevor needs to worry about his seat. People who work really hard and on behalf of their constituents are usually fine. It is some of the people who just nod their head who we should make sure have to worry. Ther are certainly enough of them.

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  23. I am sorry and confused to see this split. Shona and Trevor are excellent Deputies as is Geoff. David Rotherham should be in the States. However, I am very nervous of the Geoff/Ted alliance. It will not work now and it did not work then. This will all end in tears for the JDA with this Geoff/Ted alliance. Ted Vibert can be brilliant but he is also like a cruise missile that loses it's gyro guidance system and self destructs. I would advise Shona, Trevor and David to make clear absolute separation quickly. Debbie needs to go with them.

    Oh dearie me. More choices

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  24. There is a Statement about what has been going on being carefully prepared this week. It will be published at the weekend, then that will be it: No more to be said.

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  25. The background to all this is that Ted Vibert wants to get back into politics. He has split from his wife and moved to First Tower. One split causes another split. Well, the jury is out on Ted and we wait to see what happens next year. Personally, I think the Island snd the Assembly are fed up of attack dog politics. People want stable and consistent States Members whatever their politics. Witness the recent By-Election result.

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  26. Southern's ego has put the progressive movement back years.
    I will never vote for him again, or the JDA if he and Vibert are still in control.

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  27. The public needs to know if the JDA still exists as a political party in law or in theory.
    If it does exist, shall new officers be elected on the basis of previous policies etc or is the whole thing up for modification? Are members being contacted?
    I understand Vibert has spoken on Radio Jersey about "Reform" - but I have not heard it.

    Does the membership of the JDA stay and who takes any assets or liabilities? Shall Rowntree be fully appraised of any changes?

    So far as States members using blogs or other electronic means to communicate with the public, well it's up to them. But in view of the generally unsatisfactory service provided by the "accredited media", the opportunity to blog ought to be grabbed.

    When members ask questions, submit amendments or make propositions or even just vote - the public are entitled to more explanation than appears in the JEP. Engaging the public at election times starts with this most basic, everyday, process.

    The JDA blog has promised a much improved dialogue with the public - but with most of the JDA States members noticeable by their absence.

    The views of Ted and Dave might be interesting to some - but they are not the elected States members.

    Sadly, so far as other blogs are concerned, States members participation is haphazard and not always certain to be who they claim.

    The blogs of Monty and two Constables are pathetically inadequate.

    There is some playing with facebook and other facilities but these seem to be the domains of very narrow specialist groups in Jersey. Certainly not somewhere that I want to waste my time.
    So far as the revised JDA Council blog is concerned I note that it does not allow for anonymous comments. But can somebody please explain what the other options actually mean?
    It is the same with all blogs - why is there no simple facility just to leave one's name? I feel sure that many people are "anonymous" because they do not understand the alternatives.

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  28. Rico talks about the JDA as if he is talking for everybody. Such poor judgement once again. Geoff is the backbone of the JDA and always will be.

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  29. I agree, Geoff Southern is the 'only' hard worker at the moment or at least the only visible one. For example, his latest proposal is to put tax hikes and job cuts on hold, only him so why is that?

    I am sick and tired of narrow minded blogging lobbyists like Rico who are only nailed to the old Syvret banner. Syvret was a disgrace and has gone and good riddance.

    The JDA I am loyal.

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  30. Geoff Southern the only one hard working? What a load of baloney. Trevor and Shona put him to shame with his inflated ego. Debbie is doing a good, quet job too.

    All four work hard beyond a doubt but it is Geoff's big 'I am' posturing that gets people fed up. Also his couldn't give a monkeys to anyone but a small section of Jersey's society attitude. Trevor, Shona and Debbie seem to know that everyone is worthy of representation but does Geoff?

    I think he is actually sulking that since Trevor has come on the scene and earnt a high profle by talking sense and displaying real guts with questions Geoff would never ask, and with his performance in the States that old Geoff has lost a bit of the limelight and got in a sweat.

    Look forward to some clarity with the press release. I just hope that Trevor and the others don't sink to the depths of a slanging match, they are all far better than that. Thanks.

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  31. "The JDA I am loyal"

    Dear Loyalist,

    To what are you now loyal? One imagines you are loyal only to the idea of loyalty itself and that is your satisfaction.

    Having listened to Ted Vibert on BBC Radio Jersey this morning, it is clear he has no real programme for the continuity JDA. The idea of “Reform” is old hat. The Establishment does not want it and there are no troops with which to batter down their doors. Who cares if the reactionaries in St Ouen voted for JJ Le Marquand and would do so again in the reincarnated form of Saint Ted. One step forward and two steps back.

    Note the necessity for the suffix “Jersey” on “Reform Jersey”. Just as in Jersey ice-cream, Jersey Tourism, Jersey Telecom. Nothing new there then. Should this be seen as a sign of the new organisation’s petty chauvinism?

    Will Ted be bringing back all the disgruntled businessmen - those with such acuity that their financial services business had to be closed down?

    It sounds as though it will be "papa knows best" politics, of top down authority, rather than real democratic participation. Will the membership have any say if which direction to go? Perhaps democratic participation is a mere formality?

    We know what happened to JDA mark 1. As they say of History, it repeats itself, first as Tragedy then as Farce.

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  32. Ted's announcement means that we need to reconsider what goes into the once-and-for-all statement some of us are preparing about events in the JDA this week. Thus, it will be early next week before we get it out now. It is coming and will be on here, though.

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  33. Ted and Geoff are the heart and sole of the JDA and I think its great to get Ted back into the sweat shop again.

    But get over this last election result and this boot licking of Trevor Pitman because its getting boring.

    The JDA I am loyal.

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  34. I read Ted's statement with amazement. Does he think he is a new Tony Blair?

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  35. Trevor and Shona will get re-elected so long as they distance themselves from Southern & Vibert.

    Anybody still aligned with S&V will go down like the Titanic come next year's elections.

    We need the Pitmans & don't need ego centered people like V&S.

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  36. Trevor and Shona will get re-elected so long as they distance themselves from Southern & Vibert.

    Anybody still aligned with S&V will go down like the Titanic come next year's elections.

    We need the Pitmans & don't need ego centered people like V&S.

    WHAT A LOAD OF COBBLERS, IS STUART SYVRET WRITING THIS GUFF I WONDER?

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  37. Ted has proven that he cannot take the pressure.

    Look at him last time, rattled a few cages, gathered a good following.

    Then cracked up under pressure and lost all credibility.

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  38. Let's keep trolls off here doing JDA I am loyal and trying to stir up non-existant aggro. You can the writing a mile off.

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  39. I think it is time to out the owner and spewer of lies and smears behind the Farce blog. Maybe time to name the recently joined the ranks of 'senior' politicians half-wit behind the their recent blog attacking Geoff Southern too. I hear this politician is about to come unstuck via another link to the vile Farce blog anyway. As to the owner/chief smearer, hearing of his daddies profession outing him should be a bit of a hoot for many of the smeared and a bit of an embarrassment for the establishment.

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  40. HI guys. I think it is time you asked some questions as to the the activities of the Jersey Evening Post. Okay, so we know they will publish almost any old falsehoods about the JDA and anyone else who doesn't toe the Establishment Party line. But shouldn't someone ask how it can be that people I know are told that they can only write to the JEP once a month at most - yet Mr John Dix who has only one point to his very badly written letters i.e. attacking the likes of the JDA has been allowed to publish a letter almost every week for the entire summer?

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  41. My guess of what is going on is this.

    That people began to get sick and tired of Geoff's antics giving the false impression that the JDA were moving more and more to the left, when the reality was that most of the rest hold much more well thought through political views and wanted to represent any and all working people.

    Geoff is a capable politician but one hell of a big head it has to be said. Trevor is clearly of the centre/left political mould and can't have been happy with Geoff sounding more and more like Red Nick Le Cornu with brains. Am I right or am I right?

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  42. WHAT A LOAD OF COBBLERS, IS STUART SYVRET WRITING THIS GUFF I WONDER?



    No my good fellow, not Syvret.
    An ex member of the JDA actually.

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  43. To anonymous

    The split cannot be to do with GS making the JDA appearing more left wing than before: there is absolutely nothing left wing about Ted Vibert.

    I suspect that the real problem was that there was not a lot of life in the JDA apart from its politicians. Evidence: GS focussed on economic issues, with Trevor focussed on the HDLG/Justice issues. No problem here, but neither activity was reflected in the website or other consistent activity. A healthy group, with an idea of where it wanted to go, over and above its politicians, would have a functioning internal democracy, which would have stopped Geoff's stupid stunt.

    Anyway, having said that what's your problem with what GS has said about the island's finances?

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  44. I don't see how after the union sponsoring Geoff and with Teds vocal backing they can now claim that they are a centre left party, They must think people are stupid.

    It can't have been a easy decision for you David after all the work you've put in over the years, but I think it's the right one.

    Jon Dun-Messin don't play there games just out them.

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  45. You know if you look at the farce blogs claimed statistics (oh come on, you might just have no friends and absolutely nothing to do) you can work out by comparision with other blogs in Jersey and elsewhere that their cliamed amount of posts are absolute bollox.

    Then add in the posting times now being removed and you can see that 99.9% of all the 'people' writing anti-Syvret, ant-Voice, Rico and now all of a sudden anti-JDA posts are in reality probably no more than about three people. One with at least 60 fake IDs. You have to laugh really.

    I have just been told about a States member contributing to the site too so as it came on pretty good authority I also can't wait for one of the people in the know to out him. I suppose you have to fight fire with fire sometimes.

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  46. The JEP along with Terry Le Seur have managed to put a letter slagging down down and out Nick Corbel twice now.

    Talk about kicking someone when they are down and mocking the afflicted.

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  48. "I have just been told about a States member contributing to the site too so as it came on pretty good authority I also can't wait for one of the people in the know to out him. I suppose you have to fight fire with fire sometimes."

    Fish fish fish fish fish!

    Good luck!

    Gazza :-x

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  49. Gazza, as you happen to be on here why not tell us how you justify - being a serious blog not just out to stir and smear - how do you justify carrying the obvious and demonstrable iie that one of the JDA was charged with 'votal fraud'?

    As everyone can simply check out that all two members did, along withe several non-JDA candidates who surprise, ssurprise were not charged, was help a handful of elderly or disabled people to complete a registration form - which those individuals still had to manage to sign - requesting that they eventually be given a postal vote why on earth would your ssite carry such smears if not just to cause trouble?

    Answers please.

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  50. Oh dear, farce blog. I hear that the infamous personal e-mail you took so much joy in publsihing (and I point out that I am no fan of SS) was actually stolen from within a pile of member's papers in the States building, copied and distributed. The clock must be ticking to outing time!

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  51. Whatever the manipulations behind the scenes that happen in all political settings comments that attempt to dismis just how much the JDA achieved are way wide of the mark. From an unfortunate set back with the original founder, Ted Vibert falling ill at a time when he certainly had the establishment rocking far more than Syvret ever did the party has come back well.

    From a difficult 2005 the results in 2008 were pretty impressive. Though not enough to get a seat, greatly improved figures for the Senatorials that deserved better from the qquality of Geoff and Trevor's performance. Then an excellent four seats out of five in the Deputies.

    It seems to me that with all four deputies doing a good job where it suddenly took a dive was with Geoff Southern's misguided obsession with wanting to be a Senator at all costs. Why put so much hard work at risk for this by-election I just can't fathom.

    Syvret should have been left to stew in his own juice. Standing just made a messy situation even worse and we all know what happened. Geoff took a pasting and sadly this has wrongly been reflected on the party. Senators will be history within ten years as the quality is frankly rather dire and this can only get worse with a fudged one day election that will prevent all but the wealthiest of deputies attempting a step up. Just forget them.

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  52. Dear Anon

    Votal Fraud? I have never written anything about this but a member of the public has and if it wasn't fraud what was it then?

    The e-mail? We have already stated that a full copy was doing its travels before we were given a copy of it and as for stolen, now that really does sound desperate!

    We couldn't care less about any of these threats, just go to the police, your lawyer or data protection and complain, we on the other hand don't care so don't bother bothering us with it anymore.

    Gazza :-x

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  53. “Other Exile” is spot on. Had there been a functioning organisation there might have been some democratic control over the leadership. What we see is that the JDA was nothing other than its Council and that has now split again. What will the membership, if there is one, say at the AGM? Surely they will not want to support the Rightward shift under Ted Vibert and allow the organisation to be hijacked. Surely all the Rightist left a long time before when the "Centre Party" split and then evaporated into the sands. Perhaps they will stay, simply because “loyalty” is the crucial element; a psychological need to belong.

    That said, the dynamism may well be with Vibert and Southern, as they alone have the requisite organizational skills to continue and build some form of organisation. However, Jersey politics hardly needs another Right wing group (we have the Establishment for that). The Unions would be foolish to follow as their interests will be the first to be betrayed. The Unions have the structure, finances and socio-economic interest of their members to create and sustain a political organisation. As a final point its time the Unions stopped bank rolling the JDA, or any successor, if its leadership is not committed to defending the interests of its members. The membership cannot allow this to happen and must assert their authority over a weak leadership.

    For those who keep calling for unity amongst the progressives, there has to come a point when they ask themselves if all “progressives” are progressive?

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  54. Gaz I like your blog because it pulls no punches so thumbs up from me.

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  55. Someone just claimed that there have been workmen in the States Building Computer Room, who could have had access to printouts. I couldn't directly use their comment as it also made a mildly libellous speculation about who might have left the Syvret email there.

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  56. Blimey, Gazza shows just how thick he is. Fraud means just what any sensible person knows it to mean i.e. passing off something as yours or ssomeone elses when it is not. This cannot by any stretch of the imagination be a case of someone helping someone to complete a form which is firstly, nothing more than a request, and secondly, is a form as was made quite clear in court still signed by all the individuals involved. Admit it Gazza, if this is the best answer that you can come up with you are exposed as just another stirrer and purveyor of lies. Sounds a bit like the sort of thing you are always attacking a certain blog for! Whaat would your very important daddy say

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  57. Top of the Grange sounds a bit confused as I'm informed it was actually the Pitmans and Dave Rotherham who organised and went on to build it all up after mr. Vibert's unfortunate illness threw a spanner in the works. I don't think Souther could organise aa cup of tea for all his other qualities.

    The big problem with what Mr. Vibert did the way I look at it was the fact that he drew people to him who often had nothing in common other than being disgruntled with the mess the likes of Walker and Ozouf were making of things. At least after that people all seemed to be singing from the same hymn sheet. Until the last few months anyway possibly?

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  58. Don't forget Steve Pallett, who also did a great deal to keep the JDA afloat, before transferring his energy and leadership skills to the St Brelade Honorary Police.

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  59. Hi Anon

    I am not interested in your views of this law breaking, however you view it, it was illegal.

    This voting case is something we may actual look at more deeply come to think of it. Let me speak with my colleagues.:-)

    Gazza :-x

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  60. The Honorary Police? My word - from social democrat to possible fascist in one leap!

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  61. I do hope 'Gazza's' daddy isn't an individdual involed in the date protection case...

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  62. Not only am I pleased that the line of questioning has been maintained with reference to the shocking handling of the suspension process, it should also be flagged up that nobody should be surprised in Trevor doing so. Social justice which this definitely is all about was a big part of his manifesto. Nice to see someone actually following through with what they said beofre they were elected.

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  63. Yes, its true, lots of good people have passed through the JDA and out again. Such a pity that their talents could not have been organised in a positive fashion. Some have left with a bitter taste in their mouths. History will judge on the importance or otherwise of the now dead JDA.

    When Vibert left the organisation it split between a Left and a Right. The Right went on to form the flash in the pan Centre part and completely disappeared, vowing never to have anything to do with party politics again. Unfortunately, we still have some of the debris in the States from that minor stellar implosion.

    To reiterate, those who want to go to the Right should go. The outcome will be just the same. A Right, particularly a populist Right under Vibert will go nowhere. By Populism is meant all talk and no delivery. Lots of bombastic strutting and posing but no real change. This is a criticism equally leveled at Syvretism. Where are all the Syvertites now that the messiah has left them? We must get away from the Cult of the Personality if politics in Jersey is to progress. Stuff JJ Le Marquand, Shenton et al!

    The acid test for this “Reform Jersey" is if they are able to embrace the separation of powers and splitting of the multiple roles of the Bailiff - Chief Citizen, Senior Judge and President of the States. We know the Establishment, Crown Officers and various "Courtiers" are wholly opposed to this reform. It’s an essential democratic reform and must be a minimum demand for any organisation that is seriously committed to change. I can predict now that "Reform Jersey" will not go there. It’s a step too far and indicative of their essentially deceptive nature.

    Look, you just can’t get from A to C avoiding B. You can’t have coffee without the caffeine, chocolate without the sugar, beer without alcohol, Revolution without Revolution, the thing without the harsh element.

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  64. Hi

    With Gazza threatening all and sundry maybe it would be worth it to do a blog on his true identity? perhaps get his father's opinion on his antics? You know, how these might have implications for his work, that sort of thing. You could then do one on the one States member who so many are now cottoning on to as the cowardly smearer of his (yes, it is a him) colleagues? But probably you have more serious political issues to focus on, so maybe a task for another site? There have been so many people smeared by this revolting little twerp hiding behind the name 'gazza'it would only be doing the island a well merited service.

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  65. Hi Anonymous

    "revolting little twerp".

    Give us your real name and we will do a post on your family/work etc.

    Two can tango luvvy :-x

    Gazza:-x

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  66. Anonymous, stop playing the little boys game and just name him, if you are 100% sure of who it is.

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  67. Now that would be an interesting dilemma, if somebody sent us a comment naming him.
    I could look at his blog, to see how much respect for the privacy of others he feels it fair to show, and take care to treat him by his own standards. Or I could consider the question of whether his blog is an achievement he should be proud of, or whether it is a shameful thing, that it would be an actionable defamation to accuse him of writing.
    Whatever; it is a juicy read - as good as Stuart Syvret's, and every bit as deserving of being taken seriously!

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  68. You are too modest. Some of the stuff on your blog is quite interesting, I think.

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  69. Lol. Hot air from your resident trolls.

    Gazza :-x

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  70. I hope 'Gazza' known to some as RH got his daddy's permission for these latest posts. I'm not a member of the JDA or even a fan of Syvret but I find the fact that Gazza allows, and I suppose must then be seen to condone the same type of smears, as others have called them, tactics must make him no better than the Vile blog owner himself.

    As for JH he clearly has so many issues he is hardly worth commenting on. Whatever we thought of the JDA I admired the way the blog just stuck to a political argument without the vicious stuff RH 'Gazza' and Syvret go in for.

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  71. RH? JH? You are mad, try GC. We are not interested in your views of our blog because you don't have to read it. Nobody is forcing you and a colleague says you could be AL. Whoever that may be....

    Our stats say the material on there is good, so we guess you just don't like other peoples freedom of thought.

    Well tough.

    Gazza :-x

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  72. I know Gazza and he is sound!!!!

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  73. Blimey, Gazza's reaction to his alleged initials being put up seems to have hit a nerve! RH? Someone told me that Gazza had a song written about trying to find him by some indie band, the Automatic? Think I'll try and check their stuff out.

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  74. I think I know RH and he is rather sad. Geeky looking, not too bright and when I saw him last he also smelled of B.O. and stale wee. Oddly he is convinced that he is really bright and set to be a high-flyer. Until he was 18 he used to have to be in by 7.30pm.Bed by 8.00pm.

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  75. Any chance of Dave's excellent letter to the JEP also appearing here - the JEP letters only stay on line for a time, and it deserves a wider audience. If it doesn't come here, as it is public domain, I may repost it on my blog.

    Meanwhile, over in Malaisey, the Malaisey Democratic Alliance have had some troubling times....

    http://tonymusings.blogspot.com/2010/08/news-from-nowhere-summer-special.html

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  76. Tony:
    apart from the new top and tail for the JEP, the body of the letter was an article already on here. However, I am happy to accept the compliment of you republishing either version.

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